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Everyone, don't forget to "Watch" supes_mv_awards!!  We've had 13 people nominate, but we need more.  Keep pimping the community!

A random poll just so I can test out the settings of "Open to All, Viewable to None"

Poll #1001371 Feedback Poll

How does feedback affect the way you write?

I try to incorporate as many suggestions as I can.
1(3.2%)
If an idea appeals to me, I'll use it.
22(71.0%)
If enough people are clamoring for something, I bend to pressure.
6(19.4%)
I follow my own vision, no matter what.
2(6.5%)
Feedback? What's that?
0(0.0%)

Does the amount of feedback affect how quickly you write?

Yes, absolutely - if no one is liking my story, why should I ever write it?
3(9.7%)
Somewhat - the Muse is slow to come out of hiding if she feels unappreciated
19(61.3%)
It depends on what kind of feedback.
8(25.8%)
I write my stories for me and me only. Who cares who likes it, as long as I do!
1(3.2%)
Again, what is this feedback thing you speak of?
0(0.0%)
ETA: Spider-Man comicverse fic recs in comments.

Comments

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mark_clark
Jun. 11th, 2007 10:43 pm (UTC)
I hope my votes help.
htbthomas
Jun. 11th, 2007 10:45 pm (UTC)
Oh, they do! I'm using this as a test for the ballot I'll use at supes_mv_awards - people can see who's winning without seeing who voted for what!

Plus, based on something I read on the The Planet boards earlier, I was curious to see what my f-list's views were on this topic. :)
bananainpyjamas
Jun. 12th, 2007 12:09 am (UTC)
I haven't written fic for about two years now but I think I remember how this worked for me.

Re: the first question, I absolutely follow my own vision. The first story I ever posted back on FFN was a Rogue/Scott/Jean X-Men Evolution triangle. I got sooooo many reviews demanding that I hook Scott and Rogue up (this was back in the early days of Evo fandom when that was the norm). I went ahead with Scott/Jean anyways. Sure I got flamed, but I can't write something I'm not 100% committed to.

Re: the second. It's complicated. Whether or not I write has more to do with whether or not I have inspiration, but if I'm getting lots of reviews (as I did for writing the first Wolverine/Storm fanfics in the Evoverse) I'm more likely to stretch whatever inspiration I have. Of course that can only go so far, and so that particular trilogy died in the middle of its third act. And it's safe to say no amount of reviews will bring it back.

On the flip side, the longest and more time (and soul) consuming fic I've ever worked on garnered me the lowest number of reviews. But I kept at that too, until I hit a dead end plot-wise (I really should try to plan things out more XD). But I do want to eventually go back to that one and finish for my own sake.
htbthomas
Jun. 12th, 2007 12:29 am (UTC)
(OT - what comic is that icon from, do you know? Lois with a gun, ftw!)

For the first: I follow my own vision, but I have often had a reviewer trigger an idea a hadn't thought of. I can be utterly honest in saying that the scene in Deja Vu that is getting a ton of nominations at supes_mv_awards (the kiss in the rain, Ch. 21) would NOT be there without LJ feedback and commentary. And when that happens, it's hard to ignore!

For the second: I am pretty much a feedback whore. I need it to continue - but it doesn't have to be accolades. Enough to go on. But if I ever had a story get only a few reviews, I'd probably seriously rethink the premise. This is why I doubt I could ever write a novel, it would feel like writing in a vacuum.
bananainpyjamas
Jun. 12th, 2007 01:25 am (UTC)
The icon is from Ed Benes' recent run on Superman. It's the one where Clark reveals he'd had a robot substituting for him. I can look up the exact issue if you'd like, since I've got it sitting somewhere on my external harddrive. I remember I cropped out Lois' face because she quite obviously had a cold, lol.

Well, the rarely-reviewed fanfic I was talking about was in a small fandom, so I never expected it to get as many reviews as my X-Men fics. But it was getting fewer reviews than other fics in the fandom that, well, I knew weren't as good. Fortunately I knew better than to take number of reviews as a sign of quality, so the fans I did manage to draw in were enough to motivate me until I hit the aforementioned tricky plot point.
htbthomas
Jun. 12th, 2007 01:43 am (UTC)
I might have that comic then, but I've actually only read since the Up, Up and Away arc in Action (which I think crossed over with Superman). I'll have to give it a look!

And the difference in reviews in Superman and Spider-Man is a big one. At the height of the post-Superman blitz, it was insane. Spider-Man is much smaller, but better reviewers. 10-15% will review whereas 2-3% in Superman will. *shrugs*
bananainpyjamas
Jun. 12th, 2007 02:12 am (UTC)
It definitely predates Up, Up, and Away. The pages I saved have 222 in the filename, so that must be the issue number, since I can't think of any other reason I'd stick it in there.

I'd guess that Superman is helped by the spillover from Clark/Lois shippers in Smallville fandom. Not sure why Spidey doesn't inspire more fic that it does. Then again, I'm a huge movieverse AND fanfiction fan who can't get into movieverse fic. Might be that I prefer the comic book characterization of Pete and especially MJ. Wish there was more comicverse fic out there. Both Spidey and Supes need more lovin'.

But trust me, when I said "small fandom" I meant tiny. As in, only 40 fics on Fanfiction.net tiny. I was thrilled to work my way up to five reviews on a single chapter.
htbthomas
Jun. 12th, 2007 02:31 am (UTC)
Okay! You win! That is tiny...

I have written comicverse fic (4 of them) - but yes, there's hardly any. And most of it USM based, or an attempt to reboot the character in a "new" way... *shakes head*

But on the other hand, almost everything I've read that is based on the 616 titles is pretty good!
bananainpyjamas
Jun. 12th, 2007 03:47 am (UTC)
Ooh, do you have any recs for straight-up 616 fics? Ultimate Spidey or SMLMJ are cool too.
htbthomas
Jun. 12th, 2007 10:54 am (UTC)
There really aren't that many, as I said, but here are some recs:

Coming Clean by Mark C (a good friend)
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3055629/1/

Death of a Spider by Agent-G
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2744941/1/

There Crawled A Spider by liliaeth
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3543488/1/

SMLMJ: The Painful Thing by Sandoz Iscariot
http://sandoz-iscariot.livejournal.com/41556.html#cutid1

And my absolute favorite:

The Shocker: Legit by Max Landis
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2594910/1/

Of course, I wouldn't be averse to you checking out mine... ;) -- in the Royal Library to the side. (Summer's End, New Beginnings, Dissonance, The Devil You Don't Know)

And I have a few in other 616 - Daredevil, Runaways, a few others, if you like other Marvel titles.
lastwordslinger
Jun. 12th, 2007 01:45 am (UTC)
I did a little experiment with this that you might find interesting. Sometimes with polls or voting things like this if you clear your cache or cookies in your internet options, you can vote again. In this case, the site remembered and wouldn't let me vote more than once. Just so you know, no one should be able to cheat that way. :)
htbthomas
Jun. 12th, 2007 01:55 am (UTC)
Oh, thank you for checking! Another failsafe is that I can see what each person voted for, and a duplicate would show up. This is probably why that didn't work, because anonymous users can't vote on these - it logs the user ID of the voter and what they chose.

I appreciate that check!
coltdancer
Jun. 12th, 2007 02:38 pm (UTC)
OooooOOOOoooo! That could be motivation to get my fic finished...oh wait...heheh. People have to be able to read it, too. ;) Very cool idea!
htbthomas
Jun. 12th, 2007 02:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah... that's always true... :D

But I hope you'll "Watch" the community so that you can nominate some of your favorites and vote in a few weeks! *hugs*
alamo_girl80
Jun. 12th, 2007 06:31 pm (UTC)
I love the "feedback, what feedback?" one! Lol!

I tend to take my beta's feedback the most seriously. Readers who throw thier own ideas at me during a fic are okay, but I rarely use them. Unless it has to do with grammatical errors. *snerk*

And yeah, it doesn't do much for the muse if I work really hard on a fic and get maybe 10 reviews for 3 chapters.
htbthomas
Jun. 12th, 2007 06:40 pm (UTC)
Glad you liked that... :D

I agree, my betas ideas are the ones I listen to most seriously. I don't know what I'd do without them!

Low reviews are very disheartening, aren't they? But it's funny. I remember being thrilled at getting four on my very first fanfic. Now? That many would make me depressed! lol. It's all perspective.
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