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I've only had one or two members of my f-list here talk about the Dreamwidth closed beta, so I thought I'd announce that:

I have a Dreamwidth account now. (Still pretty basic layout-wise until open beta, but they have a lovely in-site importer for ALL your entries, comments and icons!)

pgwfolc was kind enough to give me one of his invite codes, and I snatched it up.

For those of you not in the know, Dreamwidth boils down to this: a LiveJournal-like site, run by people who used to work for LiveJournal and want to try to do it better. It's been in development a couple of years and now they are entering the beta process. I was lucky enough to get a free account - but on April 30th, they'll open it up for others to beta test.

Now I don't think I'll abandon LJ at all (especially since they are working on a way to read your LJ friends page right from the DW "reading page") but with the 3-4 kerfluffles we've had here, I'd like to give them a try. :)

Does anyone else have an account I can subscribe to?



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Apr. 11th, 2009 08:33 pm (UTC)
Ooooh, if you happen to get any codes I'd love one! I've been wanting to try out DW too.


Apr. 11th, 2009 08:38 pm (UTC)
I shall definitely keep you in mind! I haven't gotten any invite codes yet, but they keep adding accounts through existing users (which I am now one)!

They say that logging in over there with your LJ OpenID and verifying your email is the best way to get a free code. That's how pgwfolc got his...
Apr. 11th, 2009 08:41 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've had an LJ OpenID on there for a while now and I'm also following them on Twitter (where they were giving away free codes to random people) but so far nada. A couple of people on my flist have had codes to the first commenters and such but I keep missing them!

But I am determined. XD
Apr. 12th, 2009 02:37 am (UTC)
Whoops! Correction on how my friend got his codes right here...
Apr. 14th, 2009 09:17 pm (UTC)
I got more this morning. Got one left, remembered seeing this comment. You still need?
Apr. 14th, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC)
I gave her my invite code that I got this morning... But I have 8 others on a waiting list. Are you willing to share? :)
Apr. 15th, 2009 12:09 am (UTC)
THank you for the offer, though! :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 02:29 am (UTC)
For the record, that isn't how I got my account. I was on IRC. Every once in a while, they toss invite codes at people. synecdochic said that she was giving out a batch of invite codes to everyone there who had an account. A few of us OpenID people went "aww." So she gave us all invite codes.

Last night, I was on IRC and xb95 gave out 6 more invite codes, and I got 2 of them. Around the same time, he gave one code to everyone with an account who was subscribed to dw_news.

As for cross-posting... you can do it now via Semagic. That's what I'm doing. What's really cool is that the DW crossposter will include comment forwarding... so you can get (and reply to) LJ comments in your DW journal!

Oh, and they don't want people to abandon LJ. It's not a competition. They're focusing on the positives, launching something new and cool and doing it right. You can keep using LJ and whatever else, as suits you. They just want you to be part of DW... as long as that suits you, too.

As for seed accounts... they're considered a "necessary evil." Just to raise operating capital for the first year. They'd rather you get a regular paid account, both for their own long-term good and for your ability to retain the option of voting with your wallet. And they're expecting that the seed accounts will sell out very quickly. But seed accounts don't get anything Premium Paid doesn't (except for not having to keep paying). And all premium paid gets you is higher numbers (more userpics, friends, inbox messages, etc).

Anyway... welcome, and have fun! See you there! :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 02:36 am (UTC)
Whoops! I'll give her the correct info in a second. Sorry!

I use Semagic for some things, and I will probably crosspost with it for the rest of April, but I seriously like the idea of not using a separate program! :) And the comment forwarding is super-awesome -- I did not know that!

I plan to go Premium Paid on April 30th. I have that setting on the account now, and I got to transfer all 189 icons in moments. \o/

As far as abandoning LJ? I bet some people will, but a lot of people (like me) will simply crosspost for a while. I'm looking forward to playing with it a while as I work out what I want to do with it. :)
Apr. 11th, 2009 09:01 pm (UTC)
I may give it a try when more can beta test it.
Apr. 12th, 2009 01:49 am (UTC)
Yeah, right now they are working out bugs and getting things ready. I was planning to wait until April 30th myself, but I lucked into an account. :)
Apr. 11th, 2009 09:02 pm (UTC)
*envy* I have set up an openid account on dreamwidth but I'd like to see a bit more of what the system has to offer than that before I decide what to do about setting up shop at yet another journaling service.

What do you think of the user-experience so far? The name difference between "trusted" and "reading" seems a big help!
Apr. 12th, 2009 01:52 am (UTC)
What I liked is that I don't really have to "set up shop" yet. Importing everything from LJ was a very easy process. They even plan to have a way to crosspost to LJ and DW at the same time, right there on-site. Just those things alone make it feel much different and possibly more functional than the other LJ-clones.

So far, I definitely like the difference between someone "subscribing" and someone having "access" - I think the distinction is more clear-cut. :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 01:53 am (UTC)
If I could test it more thoroughly, I might be tempted to lay down the cash for one of the opening day permanent accounts.
Apr. 11th, 2009 09:32 pm (UTC)
I'd love to get one.
Apr. 12th, 2009 01:54 am (UTC)
If I get more than a couple invite codes before the 30th, I'd be happy to pass it on! I was going to buy a one-month paid account on the 30th if I didn't luck into the basic account -- so at least there's that option! :)
Apr. 11th, 2009 09:34 pm (UTC)
I've heard about DW from another person on my flist. I'm curious to hear what you think of your experience there so far. :)

I doubt I could up and abandon El Jay altogether unless they did something grossly wicked. I mean, I do have a perm account here and all! ;)
Apr. 12th, 2009 01:56 am (UTC)
So far, it's just getting off the ground, only a few comms, and less than 1000 members. Many of the planned features are still being worked on, and there's no customization of layouts yet. But importing everything from LJ was a very easy process. They even plan to have a way to crosspost to LJ and DW at the same time, right there on-site. Just those things alone make it feel much different and possibly more functional than the other LJ-clones.

Yeah, having a perm!account means I'll likely cross-post instead of abandon LJ. I'd only jump ship if our Russian overlords do something really crazy. ;)
Apr. 11th, 2009 11:00 pm (UTC)
Oh I hope you don't abandon LJ :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 01:57 am (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I won't! The features I have as a perm!account user are pretty darn nice. So I'd likely cross-post instead of abandon LJ. I'd only jump ship if our Russian overlords do something really crazy. ;)
Apr. 11th, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
Humm, it looks similar to LJ. I see you'll keep LJ for now, but why have both accounts... seems weird to me..!

IDK, I can't think of a reason to try this..

Let us know how it goes..! *hugs*
Apr. 12th, 2009 02:00 am (UTC)
I'm mostly beta-testing it now, seeing what it's like to have both accounts, whether cross-posting is easy or a pain... that sort of stuff. I loved that I could import my whole LJ over in minutes. That was awesome.

I'll still be here unless something goes terribly wrong, though. Just seeing if a better way might be out there. :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 12:00 am (UTC)
Oh I too have heard about this. Congrats on getting access. Let me know if you get any extra codes lying around

Apr. 12th, 2009 02:01 am (UTC)
Thanks! And if I do have any, you'll be in line to get one! I don't know how many they'll hand out or when. There's always purchasing one month paid on the 30th (which is what I planned to do originally). :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 03:04 am (UTC)
I'm really impressed with DreamWidth after digging through the information - it's nice knowing that the higher-ups are not only aware of but sympathetic to us fandomy-types. *g* I only have an OpenID account set up right now, but I do plan on creating a proper account as soon as possible, whether I wait and buy on the 30th or wheedle an invite out of someone beforehand.

I've kind of been going back and forth on whether I want to transfer the bulk of activity there after a couple of months; I think I'm just going to wait and see which way the wind blows. Who knows how things will go on LJ?
Apr. 12th, 2009 03:09 am (UTC)
I've kind of been going back and forth on whether I want to transfer the bulk of activity there after a couple of months; I think I'm just going to wait and see which way the wind blows. Who knows how things will go on LJ?

My feelings exactly. There won't be much fandom activity over there at first, I know that. But someone has to start, right?
Apr. 12th, 2009 04:40 am (UTC)
this looks majorly interesting; I am going to have tot check it out when it opens. Thanks for postin' :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 12:47 pm (UTC)
You're welcome! I'm sure it'll be slow-starting, but there are a lot of people unhappy with certain aspects of LJ, and this will give them a chance to try something else. :)
Apr. 12th, 2009 07:06 am (UTC)
I find DW interesting and sort of "ooh, shiny, new sandbox!" I'll probably end up starting an account there when it opens up (I'm not sure what the invite code does? It just allows you to use it in closed beta? Or does it give you a permanent account?), though I'm not sure if I'll move there completely. From the sounds of things, maybe not, but it also seems like they've made cross-posting rather easy.

I'm also a bit confused about how the whole "friend/filters" - or access/circle/subscribe - thing works there, but I suspect, for me, it'll be something I won't comprehend until I actually use it.

In short, I hope DW goes well, and manages to get enough users to sustain itself.
Apr. 12th, 2009 12:53 pm (UTC)
The invite code allows you to get a free account (right now, during closed beta, it also allows you to try the various paid options without paying). After open beta launch on the 30th, only people invited by others can get a free account. But anyone who wants to buy a paid account monthly or yearly can join.

I don't think I'd move there completely, either. It will be nice to stay connected to both sites!

Once I used the subscription/access thing a few times, I got it. Basically, every person can decide whether they are subscribing to you or also granting you access. I could grant you access (which I did) without subscribing to you. That way you could see my locked entries without me having your journal on my reading page. (You can't post entries yet, so it was a moot point). Once you join, I'll add you as a subscription as well as access. :)
Apr. 15th, 2009 12:12 am (UTC)
In the beginning LJ was like that with the invite code - I got my LJ account because someone on an HP message board gave me one. I can't recall when they did away with the invite codes here but it's probably been about five years or so.
Apr. 13th, 2009 11:18 pm (UTC)
I just started there with OpenID. Figured I'd check it out and see what all the hype was about. It looks cool. Nothing that makes it stand out from LJ so far but I'm still reading up on everything.
Apr. 13th, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC)
Right now, there aren't big differences - mostly things that aren't ready yet. What I like about it, which will be ready later on:

1) crossposting to LJ-based sites all at once from DW
2) ability to read friends pages from all from within DW
3) differences between access and subscription that are more functional than friends/non-friends
4) no ads

There are more differences at this post, which explain better than me. :)
Apr. 13th, 2009 11:32 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the link to that post. The links there are very helpful.

I was surprised by the access and subcription function. That is amazing. And I didn't realize that they're working towards the ability to crosspost. That's a big draw.

If you ever get enough invite codes, may I have one?
Apr. 13th, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
Sure! I shall add you. You are #9, by the way. But I will definitely add people as soon as I start getting them! (I'm not sure how often they give them out, yet.)
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